A friend is proud of the sharp arrows that she smooths out on the sleeves of men’s shirts. I can completely do without them. It is no coincidence that there are special ironing boards for sleeves. And modern steamers when processing fabric do not leave a sharp mark on it.
So from time to time, she and I argue about which of us is doing the right thing. But we have not yet come to a common opinion.
Why a shirt is important
Gone are the days when a shirt was a mandatory element of a man's wardrobe. Today, both guys and respectable gentlemen are happy to “cheat” on her by choosing a T-shirt or sweatshirt, hoodie or sweatshirt. However Often the dress code insists on a classic business suit, and then you can’t do without a shirt.
There are many situations when a man must look respectable, personable and respectable. This means you will also need a shirt. Moreover, it is important not only to choose it correctly, but also to give it the “right” look. And here the question of sleeves arises again.I don’t want them to spoil the impression of the owner of the shirt.
And although sometimes it seems that men themselves do not pay much attention to this, we decided to sort it out once and for all.
What does etiquette say?
Since the shirt is associated with rules, we decided to start with etiquette.
Important! There is no unambiguous strict requirement for the appearance of a long sleeve men's shirt.
Perhaps this is due to the fact that according to etiquette requirements Only part of the cuff should be visible from under the jacket. The rest of the sleeve remains hidden from view.
But sometimes in an informal situation a man can take off his jacket. And if etiquette does not impose strict prohibitions or requirements on the arrow, it means that in any case a man can feel calm and confident. After all, he does not violate the rules of etiquette! Unless, of course, special requirements are specified in the dress code of a particular company.
Important! Regardless of how the sleeve is ironed, there should be no arrows on the cuff.
And how do professionals in the fashion world act in the absence of etiquette rules? They can tell you which option is more relevant today.
Traditions instead of etiquette norms
In the old days, when shirts were ironed with heavy irons and stored in a dresser drawer, folds were treated calmly. What about now that we store them on hangers in the closet? Let's get acquainted with the customs that have developed in the fashion world.
- Shirts classic models with long sleeves it is preferable to leave them with arrows. Traditionally, such shirts are paired with a suit and worn with a tie.
Important! An arrow on the sleeve of an office shirt is perceived as an indicator of its freshness.
- Everyday And sports shirts and also fitted models in casual style It is better to wear without smoothing out sharp marks left by the iron.
• Summer models with short sleeves should be left without arrows.
• Uniforms The shirts of the military, police, employees of the Ministry of Emergency Situations and other departments are traditionally worn with arrows.
Important! If you leave a crease on the sleeve, make sure that it is neat, straight and even, like on trousers.
How to wear it abroad
Our compatriots who have gone abroad notice with surprise that there do not attach serious importance to the appearance of the sleeves of a man's shirt.
In Europe, Asia and America, shirts with arrows are easily worn. It is in this form that they are received from dry cleaners and laundries. And if a woman decides to iron a shirt herself, she calmly leaves sharp creases from the iron on its sleeves.
And foreign pros do the same as our women: some leave a fold, some don't.
For example, shirtmaker Pierre Duboin always leaves them, explaining this for convenience when ironing.
A author of the book about men's clothing and men's style "Suit" Nicolo Antongiovanni (real name Michael Anton) is sure that only formal shirts need pleats. Whereas at informal events they are unnecessary.
Let's pay attention to foreign politicians. They often appear in public wearing a shirt with pleats on the sleeves.
All in all, You can continue to stroke as the man likes and as the woman finds more comfortable.
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If the author had asked what requirements were established for the rules for wearing military uniforms, he learned that arrows should only be on trousers, but they should not be on shirts (defined by a special order).
You can, of course, discuss a lot of different etiquettes there, BUT, in life, the logic of pressed or ironed sleeves of men's shirts is simple - if there are arrows on the sleeves, then the man is a bachelor.
It’s not without reason, quote…”shirt tailor Pierre Duboin always leaves them, explaining this for ease of ironing.”
Therefore, wives should take note of this point. I personally can’t stand ironed creases on the sleeves of a shirt, it’s unprofessional for a woman-wife, and this skill comes from my mother, of course.
I always considered arrows on shirt sleeves to be a sign of bad taste.
What does the hostess and her successes/failures have to do with it? A man is not a baby. Let him iron it himself or buy a steamer.
You need to join the army - they will quickly wean you from this bad manners.
This question worries me as the mother of a schoolchild; I want to iron 5 shirts at a time with a minimum of effort and there is always a temptation to iron with a crease, but my personal feeling of the correctness of the process says that the sleeve must be ironed completely. Under the jacket it’s invisible, but in the vest it’s visible (you can see the lazy mother)
I was in the army for 21 years, and the arrows on the sleeves of my shirt always infuriated me.And I myself don’t smooth out the creases on the sleeves of my shirts for either my son or my husband. I CAN NOT!!!!!
My grandmother (“from the past”) always taught that you need to be able to iron men’s shirts WITHOUT an arrow on the sleeve, because an arrow is a sign of an incompetent wife and bad form. Arrows should only be on trousers. (I am a wife with thirty-five years of experience)))
My mom and grandma always said (in other words, of course) – She’s a good housewife if her husband has ironed arrows on his sleeves!! My attitude is similar! An arrow on the sleeve is a sign of sloppiness! And I don’t care what all the experts say there.”
You smooth out the arrows, but your home is all messy and dirty, and you don’t know how to wash the dishes...
Which side should you break boiled eggs on? I remember that this became the cause of the war between the Lilliputians
))) Gulechka, baby, if you have a scratch at home, this does not mean that everyone else does too))) throw away your experience and look around)))
I’m not going to argue at all!))) Read – I expressed my opinion! Are you not satisfied? Well, not my problem! Smoothed arrows – sloppiness!
Hmmm. Russian women have come up with additional criteria and are fighting tooth and nail for them. “Shit wife”, “unprofessional woman wife” - just darkness. Try to feel your worth without regard to ironing men's shirts, ladies. As they do in the civilized world.
Oh, you read some here about incompetent wives who iron the arrows on their shirts.You see, etiquette is not a decree for them, their grandmothers and mothers under Tsar Pea told them that it is a shame and disgrace to iron the arrows..ridiculous！Are you serious？Once again: according to etiquette, an arrow on a shirt (shirt) is a sign of a fresh shirt, because the shirt should change every day！And if you have complexes and cockroaches in your head about arrows as a sign of a lazy wife, keep your cockroaches to yourself.
Arrows on the uniform of law enforcement officers????? Are you seriously???
Do you also break the arrows on the chevrons located on the sleeves of your shirts?
The article is good, but it’s impossible to read the comments on it without tears. I would advise most wonderful housewives to learn to talk humanly with their husbands, and then discuss the sleeves on other people's shirts.
Chevron on a jacket, where have you seen chevrons on a long sleeve shirt? Oh yes, in Ukrainian TV series about dogs.
Don’t talk nonsense about the army - there are no such provisions. They always smoothed out the creases on their shirts. Firstly, without ironing boards, you have to try hard to iron a sleeve without an arrow. Secondly: when both the wife and the husband are in the army, there is no time for showing off. As long as it's clean and ironed. Whether with arrows on the sleeve or not, they didn’t worry. The collar was clean, neatly sewn on the field uniform (which was not ironed at all) and the arrows on the trousers were drawn using a bar of soap from the back - yes. And bother with ironing without arrows on the sleeve - I beg you! And for a child, 6-8 shirts for a week, on one day off you won’t have much time to iron them “without arrows”!
The author of the article apparently does not know that the arrows on the shirt are made on purpose, and not because of inability to iron. It depends on fashion and desire. The army banned arrows; they were made specially, including on the back.
I read the comments here and remembered how my husband told me when I removed this arrow that it wouldn’t happen. “Why are you wasting your time on this bullshit? Leave it - let it be. The main thing is that there should be no marks on the cuffs – that’s all.” And voila, I’ve been ironing shirts for four years now without bothering about ironing “without arrows on the sleeve.” So, girls, don’t waste your time on any bullshit))) Get busy!
Comments, of course, are fire... Until now, we associate a good wife with housework, and not with the ability to be interesting to her husband in all guises (friend, mistress, etc.). Like there are no arrows on the sleeves of a shirt - a good wife, but she can always have a “headache”, she has not spent time with her husband for a long time, but only washes everything so that everything shines, irons it without arrows, prepares it like Malanyin’s wedding and considers herself a good wife. The husband's opinion is not taken into account.
I’ve had a steamer for a long time, so it’s not an issue. But I would be very sad if my husband considered me a good wife based on how I cope with everyday life.
Dear fans of arrow removal, I want to teach you an etiquette lesson. When a man goes to a particularly significant event, he puts on a Swiss watch, cufflinks with sapphires and a new shirt from the factory packaging, while the arrows and creases from the folded shirt are obligatory on the sleeves. Arrows on the sleeves are removed only on women's blouses and blouses.
Men's long-sleeved shirts must have arrows! On classic shirts with a fastening top button. The absence of an arrow on the sleeve is bastard.
Tell me which troops have shirts now?
If a schoolchild's mother has arrows on five of her shirts, is that a lazy mother? Or maybe it's a working mother?
When I was studying to become a tailor, they said that arrows could only be classic. and formal trousers, but only housewives do it on shirts! Not a single book on sewing technology has arrows on the sleeves; there are ironing pads for that!
??? Yes, and without creases, etc., you can iron without any problems and steam... Yes, there are pads, but there is also this: iron the sleeve on a plane (the main thing is that the top of the sleeve can be pulled to the edge so that it hangs and is not accidentally ironed) , and then straighten it, and where there are usually arrows, combine and run the iron along the arrows. There have never been any problems, steam or wasted time, and the arrow can also be moved, but as you know, once you iron the arrow, you won’t iron it out, there will be marks.
As a tailor of light women's clothing and men's shirts, I will say: there should be no arrows on the sleeves!
I think there shouldn't be arrows
I iron with arrows, except for the cuffs, of course. For summer ones too. I like. I don’t iron on sports and summer unofficial ones. Shirts look fresher with arrows. And without the arrows, it’s as if I’ve been wearing it for a week. And here they write about lazy housewives.So the lazy one is the one who is not able to make straight arrows, explaining her inability by the fact that arrows are not needed on shirts)))
Absolutely right! There must be arrows!!!!! This is neat))